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Pretender Talk :: Andy Rourke

Author: David Subject: Andy Rourke Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:16 pm (GMT 0) Topic Replies: 0 After the Smiths split, one band Andy Rourke played for is the Pretenders. He was quoted as saying: "Chrissie Hynde can be scary! She's a great songwriter, but she's a real sergeant-major. She's quite intense, but it was a real pleasure to work with her." Anyone else heard this?

Pretender Talk :: Any REAL Pretenders Fans here

Author: purrtender2 Subject: Any REAL Pretenders Fans here Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:09 pm (GMT 0) Topic Replies: 0 It seems every post has to do with porn. Is this a real fan site and are there any true Pretender fans out there. If not this site should be deleted it's a disgrace to The Band to have all this crap posted and attached to there name. Judi[b] _________________ I'm addicted still ~

Pretender Talk :: pretenders contest

Author: will jeffries Subject: pretenders contest Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:38 pm (GMT 0) Topic Replies: 0 theres a pretenders and 80s contest at www.m30.ca/contest/eighties

Pretender Talk :: Agora show

Author: ducky Subject: Agora show Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:47 pm (GMT 0) Topic Replies: 0 I got Chrissie's guitar pick. I'am so happy cos I play guitar too. I have a fender strat and a fender princeton chorus. Love that ring. Chrissie said they have some new material but did not play any. Just have to wait I guess. The show started with "the wait". I was pleased to hear "Day after day". It was an excellant show as always. She did a little dance with her bass player for us. She wore a top hat too. What a show!

Pretender Talk :: Set lists from the curent tour with The Who

Author: calman Subject: Set lists from the curent tour with The Who Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:19 pm (GMT 0) Topic Replies: 0 Has anyone seen Chrissie and the guys on this leg with The Who? I saw them last night in Columbus and they were great! Chrissie was in playful mood immitating Stevie Nicks with her tambourine and talking with the audience. A guy yelled out from the crowd he'd like Chrissie to ride his bike with him and she said "doesn't everyone?" Anyway while the show was great it was to short. Didn't get to hear "Precious", "Tattoed Love Boys", or "Mystery Achievement." Was wondering what they had played on other parts of the tour.

Chris Hynde :: Chrissie Hynde's First Kiss Story

Author: David Subject: Chrissie Hynde's First Kiss Story Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:25 pm (GMT 0) Topic Replies: 0 OR MAYBE SHE JUST PRETENDED IT HAPPENED The Spokesman Review Compiled by staff writer Rick Bonino Saturday, March 16, 1996Copyright 1996 Cowles Publishing Company IN LIFE -- People PRETENDERS singer CHRISSIE HYNDE seems like the type of woman you wouldn't want to mess with, the kind who could handle anything. But even Hynde seems to be a bit taken aback about how she got her first kiss, as she detailed in Details magazine: "I was taken onstage at a Jackie Wilson concert. They used to drag girls on stage out of the audience. Yeah, real cool, but at the time it kind of bummed me out, because I was white and I felt like maybe I shouldn't have been there. There weren't any other white people in the audience, just me and my girlfriend. "And I was shy. I'd never been kissed. I was horrified. Everyone else was screaming to be picked, and I was trying to hide, but my white skin was a dead giveaway. I had no camouflage, so the guy dragged me up there and Jackie Wilson kissed me, by God."

Chris Hynde :: The Great Pretnender

Author: David Subject: The Great Pretnender Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:14 pm (GMT 0) Topic Replies: 0 The Guardian Copyright 1995 Tuesday, October 17, 1995 The Guardian Features Page The great Pretender. She is 44 and shows no sign of either retiring or giving up the kohl. And yet, as Chrissie Hynde tells Amy Raphael, she never wanted to be recognised on the street AMY RAPHAEL CHRISSIE HYNDE once said that when she reached 40, she'd stop making music. Yet the image of Hynde as a survivor makes the idea of her being anything but a rock star anathema. In 1973, at 22, Chris Hynde packed a few possessions and left her native Ohio for good. Within months of arriving in London, she was living in a squat and waiting tables. After protesting loudly about a new album in a pub one night, it was suggested she write for the NME and she decided to have a go. The NME wanted readers to know she was female, so she became "Chrissie" and, worried about her status as an illegal alien, temporarily shortened her surname to "Hynd". Just as punk was about to explode, she fell in with the likes of Malcolm McLaren and the Sex Pistols, and nearly married Sid Vicious to obtain a green card. Yet Hynde had no desire to live her life through others. She was more concerned about being in a band herself than writing about others' experiences, and was also intent on not being regarded as simply another Pistols groupie. She later remarked: "At that point, everyone had a band except me and it used to make me cry." By the summer of 1978, she had her own band, The Pretenders, in which she fronted three British musicians. The following year, the band had their first hit with a cover of The Kinks' Stop Your Sobbing. Since then, The Pretenders have moved on from being a traditional rock 'n' roll band with a punky edge to an act celebrated for its power pop ­ with Hynde's husky, sensuous, emotionally­vulnerable vocal style remaining a constant allure. Alongside the age­related threat of giving it all up, Hynde has at times looked as though she could not hold things together ­ for reasons beyond her control. In 1982, her guitar player, James Honeyman­Scott, died from an overdose and a year later bass player Pete Farndon was found dead in his bath from drugs­related causes. Instead of giving up, she hired new band members, but soon afterwards disappeared for eight years to bring up her two daughters (one by The Kinks' Ray Davies, the second by Simple Minds frontman Jim Kerr) and devote her time to environmental campaigning. Now 44, Chrissie Hynde still shows no signs of carrying out her threat of retiring ­ or giving up the kohl pencil. The Pretenders are releasing Isle Of View, a live acoustic album including tender versions of old classics like I Go To Sleep and Kid, while Hynde stars in The Pretenders: No Turn Left Unstoned, a documentary of her band's history. It's a very watchable show in which the likes of Bono and Elvis Costello gush about how her vocal style influenced theirs, while Hynde herself is by turns charming and curt. To the inevitable question: "When did you meet Ray Davies?" she replies: "Who the fuck wants to know?" and, on her eight­year absence: "I certainly didn't turn into a housewife because I lost the two husbands somewhere along the way." In person, Hynde is charming rather than curt and the toughest thing about her is trying to make her focus on the products she is supposed to be promoting ­ she would rather gossip or air her views on various issues. She is worried the documentary might raise her profile: "I agreed to do it because I felt it would be good to tie up some loose ends. I thought that the story of The Pretenders was frankly more interesting than a lot of bands, but . . . I don't know how interesting I could possibly be to the public. If there is anything interesting in my life, I'm certainly not going to talk about it on camera. I have always been the leader of my band, been its musical director and the one who orchestrates it ­ and I can sustain an hour­long documentary without talking about who I've fucked." She pauses, sips her tea and some of the charm temporarily evaporates. "Which makes me less colourful. Pretty dull in fact." She is a strict believer that even the most public of faces should keep their private lives to themselves. "Have you ever seen a photo of me with either Ray or Jim? A lot of women who are married to famous men use that fact to help them get ahead. Some even become professional widows. Have you ever seen a photo of either of my daughters? When they were babies, I'd put them on the coach in their carry cots, make sure they were asleep, go do the gig, travel overnight on the coach. The first time they have ever actually seen me do a show is when I recorded Isle Of View in front of a studio audience. You know I'm deadly serious when I say that I don't want to be more famous. To have my privacy invaded. Or have my children exploited. To go public and brag who my lovers have been." One aspect of Chrissie Hynde that has puzzled people over the years is the uneasy balance between her position as an icon for nineties "strong women in rock" and her steadfast refusal to label herself a feminist. Part of the key to her continued success has been the astute way in which she has refused to allow the music industry to turn her into a sex object: despite the fact that she refers to herself as a "rock chick", she has never offered herself as a pin­up, and yet she has done this without turning it into a political crusade. "No one has ever seen my legs, my ass, my tits. I never used to wear short sleeves. Even my fucking face I've hidden beneath my fringe. I'm the original yashmak rocker. I can be 44 years old and it not be a problem because no one ever thought Cor! when they saw a picture of The Pretenders." Is that why Deborah Harry was mocked for being overweight when she made a comeback a few years ago? "The entire image of Blondie was about her cleavage, her legs, her ass, her hair, her face, her pouting lips. So when she reappeared and she was no longer a sex symbol, everyone was obviously going to comment. But I don't have this paranoia of a sexist agenda ­ when Eric Clapton put on a few pounds, it didn't go unnoticed." HYNDE HAS been unimpressed with feminism for as long as she can remember, but she now has a hunch that the women's movement got it badly wrong: "We can't keep saying that it's a man's world and that they have oppressed us. Bullshit. Who gives birth to them and raises them? So who should take some responsibility? We're the ones with blood on our hands. I've been in a relationship where I've been beaten stupid. I've got the x­rays, I could show you. I can understand how women get into a situation that gets weird. Especially when they aren't financially independent. Women get the shit end of the stick sometimes. Everyone acknowledges that. But you know, you don't have to take it. We're powerful but we're abusing that power, we're giving it away." She takes a sip of tea, then suddenly jumps up and gesticulates wildly. "I can't stand it! I can't stand the way women are getting away with behaviour which, if they were men, would have them labelled sexist. Instead, they're cheered for taking their clothes off on stage and boasting about sexual conquests." Could she perhaps be thinking of Courtney Love? Hynde smiles demurely and continues. "Imagine if a guy had a big hit song which was all about giving a girl one in a movie theatre ­ people would say: 'Get the hell out of here, sexist pig.' Yet when Alanis Morissette did it, everyone was like Wow! Women are behaving in ways they would condemn men for. If you talk about God, morality or decency in this country, you'll be ridiculed. You have to embrace a kind of irreverent, destructive lifestyle ­ which involves glorifying hard drugs and accepting porn ­ to be cool. Which is what everyone is so desperate to be. There's no one radical in music today ­ they're all too worried about their self­image, about being media darlings." At one point, Hynde became so disillusioned with the world that she refused to look at a newspaper for 18 months and she still doesn't make a habit of watching television. "I live a very quiet life. I go home at night. I see my kids and hang out with them. We deal with the pet rabbits, the cats, the dog. The girls go to bed. I go to my room. I light a candle. I smoke a spliff. I do my yoga. I go to bed and read. Sometimes I listen to music, but only if I can really concentrate on it. I don't have it as background music. I don't have noise around me much. I am kinda unaware of what's going on. I don't do anything like use the internet ­ I can't even work a digital radio, for God's sake." Does the future look bleak for the technophobic mother of two who is convinced that more and more women are losing the plot? "Yeah, maybe . . . well, who knows?" She bursts out laughing. "You know, I have to think about myself sometimes. And I'm doing exactly what I want to do. I'm in a rock band. Everyone in my generation wanted to be in a rock band and, by God, I got to do it. Why should I want to be anything else but a rock star?" Isle Of View is out on WEA. The Pretenders: No Turn Left Unstoned is on Channel 4 tonight at 11pm.

Pretender Talk :: RE: Pretenders Album List

Author: David Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:43 am (GMT 0) Topic Replies: 2 Hi there Colin. This isn't exactly my most popular forum, but who know...maybe it will be one day!

Pretender Talk :: RE: Pretenders Album List

Author: Col Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 6:18 pm (GMT 0) Topic Replies: 2 Hi David!!! Just thought I would pop in!!

Pretender Talk :: Pretenders Album List

Author: David Subject: Pretenders Album List Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:20 am (GMT 0) Topic Replies: 2 Pretenders (Released: January 19, 1980) Extended Play (Released: March 1981) Pretenders II (Released: August 15, 1981) Learning to Crawl (Released: January 21, 1984) Get Close (Released: November 1, 1986) The Singles (Released: November 7, 1987) Packed! (Released: May 16, 1990) Last of the Independants (Released: May 21, 1994) The Isle of View (Released: October 28, 1995) Viva El Amor (Released: May 17, 1999) Loose Screw (Released: November 12, 2002)

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